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Dr. Laura Norman was interviewed by Bryony Cottam, Staff Writer for Geographical Magazine - the official magazine of the Royal Geographical Society in the UK. 

This episode of the monthly podcast focuses on desertification and projects that are working to combat desertification in different locations worldwide, like the USGS Aridland Water Harvesting Study. People all over the world are interested to learn about Natural Infrastructure in Dryland Streams (NIDS), a low-cost, low-tech, nature-based solution that can be used to build climate resilience and mitigate drought, erosion, flooding, and atmospheric carbon.

In this podcast (minutes 16:00 - 25:00) "...learn how scientists are trying to reverse desertification in some of the world's driest regions. Humans have long used forms of 'natural infrastructure' - such as rock structures - to manage water resources, and this ancient knowledge is providing an effective and substantial method for restoring degraded land in North America - as Laura Norman, a researcher at the United States Geological Survey - explains".

Click on this link to go to the podcast - The Geographical Podcast: Can Desertification Be Stopped? - Geographical.

Learn more here, about NIDS, landscape rehydration, and Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK) here: Ancient methods of preventing desertification and recovering from drought - U. S. Geological Survey (

Photo of rock piles and agave plants at Mission Garden
Rock pile trincheras with agave plants at Mission Garden, a living agricultural museum of Sonoran Desert-adapted heritage trees, traditional local heirloom crops and edible native plants in Tucson, Arizona. (Photo by Laura M. Norman, USGS) 







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